DAVID SHAFT · DETROIT · 2025
MEET DAVID SHAFT
Communication is the most
underrated
skill in business.
President’s Club Banker at Rocket Mortgage. Dale Carnegie graduate. Detroit-based host of Conversations That Count.
58+ EPISODES · NEW TUESDAYS & THURSDAYS
WHERE A PRESIDENT’S CLUB BANKER INTERVIEWS THE WORLD’S BEST COMMUNICATORS
I started Conversations That Count because I believe communication is the most underrated skill in business and in life. As a President’s Club Banker at Rocket Mortgage and a Dale Carnegie graduate, I’ve spent my career learning how the way you communicate determines whether your ideas get heard, your deals get closed, and your career moves forward.
WHY I STARTED THIS
Real communication is about being real.
— DAVID SHAFT
But great communication isn’t just a corporate skill. It’s how entrepreneurs build brands, how artists build audiences, and how communities build culture. Every episode, I sit down with someone who has mastered a specific aspect of communication, whether it’s a fashion entrepreneur who pitched their way onto Woodward Avenue, a corporate leader who transformed their organization’s culture, or a creator who turned their voice into a business.
Based in Detroit, I’m building this podcast from the ground up. Not from a university lecture hall, not from a Silicon Valley studio. From the city that taught me that real communication is about being real. Every conversation gives you something you can use tomorrow. That’s the standard.
FEATURED & ON STAGE
AutoTech 2025
FEATURED SPEAKER
Fireside chat on Winnebago Connect, communication, and IoT
Twisted Storytellers
PODCAST GUEST
Guest on Detroit’s premier live storytelling show
Dale Carnegie
GRADUATE
Trained in the world’s most enduring communication framework
ONE QUESTION I ALWAYS ASK
Tell me about a time you had a conversation that really counted.
Every guest. Every episode. The answer is almost always surprising.
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10 frameworks. 58+ conversations. Free.
10 communication moves from the world's best communicators, one from each of our top episodes. Download it free and start using them tomorrow.
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